| Welcome to the Big East
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| This Spreadsheet was put together by
Mark Pasquale (PC Class of 1987) to both decipher the playoff |
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| seedings
for the Big East Tournament introduced for the 2000-2001 season and |
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| because his team, the Providence College
Friars, were doing well enough in 2001 to care. |
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| 2004 was also fun, but 2005 is like
nails on a chalkboard! |
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| March 5, 2005 Regular Season Final |
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| Final Tie Breaker
Explanation: |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
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| Boston College beat Uconn. |
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| Seeding goes (1) BC, (2) Uconn. |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
used. |
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| Syracuse beat Villanova. |
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| Seeding goes (3) Syracuse, (4)
Villanova. |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
used. |
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| Georgetown
beat WV. |
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| Seeding goes (7) Georgetown, (8) West
Virginia. |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
used. |
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| PC beat Seton Hall. |
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| Seeding goes (9) PC, (10) Seton Hall. |
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| NCAA Prospects, NIT
Consolations, and Exits: |
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| BC is
in. Between Nation Rankings and total
victories, only seeding is at stake from here on in. A very weak non-conference schedule may
hurt BC's serious consideration as a #1 seed as does recent losses to
Villanova and Pitt, but they are on target for a #2. We can only hope that if BC makes the
conference finals that all Big East coaches chip in intel to prevent the
turncoat BC Eagles from winning the automatic seed. |
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| UConn is in. Between
National Rankings and total victories, only seeding is at stake from here on
in. UConn's last wins against Notre
Dame, Pitt, and Syracuse improved the
record against the top 6 Big East teams to 5-3. UConn continues to make a statement to the committee with
regards to NCAA seeding. |
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| Syracuse is in. Between
Nation Rankings and total victories, only seeding is at stake from here on
in. Syracuse played a weak
non-conference schedule and lost their only serious non-conference game
against Oklahoma State. Syracuse is
1-4 against the top four teams in the Big East. Unless they win the Big East Tournament, are they are looking
at a #3 seed at best? |
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| Villanova is in. A
recent win against BC was a large step forward. They have a guaranteed .500 conference record even with a first
round loss, as well as 20 wins.
Villanova is 3-5 against the top 6. |
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| Pitt is in. They have
hit the magic #19 wins, and have a guaranteed a .500 conference record even
with a first round loss. Pitt is 6-1
against the top six teams in the Big East and has helped their seeding in the
stretch run. Monday's win against BC
was huge as was Saturday's against Notre Dame. |
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| Notre Dame has an opportunity to crack into the NCAA tournament,
but still needs at least one more win.
At least one win appears required in the Big East Tournament. They have a guaranteed .500 conference
record even with a first round loss, but need at least one more win. They may be safe if they can make 18 wins,
because they are one of three teams to beat BC this year. |
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| West Virginia is likely in the NCAA Tournament, but will help
themselves with one more win. Due to
Georgetown's collapse, West Virginia has passed them on the bubble list. The Committee likes team that finish
strong and West Virginia has won 6 of their last 8. A win in the Big East Tournament will give them 19 wins and a
guaranteed .500 finish in conference, but they also have RPI issues and
losing on Saturday to Seton Hall did not help thier RPI. |
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| Georgetown had an opportunity to crack into the NCAA tournament,
but they are slowly closing the door with their current 5 game slide. One more win gets the Hoyas to a
guaranteed .500 conference record even with a first round loss. Georgetown will need to win at least one
game in the Big East Tourney. It is
highly unlikely that the committee picks 8 teams from the Big East
conference. If only seven get to go
from the Big East, Georgetown will have to outlast Notre Dame, West Virginia,
and Villanova by going deep in the Big East Tournament. Georgetown is 3-6 against the top 6. |
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| Providence can still climb out of the cellar and into the
NIT. It will take winning their first
three games in the Big East Tournament - not a likely scenario. One wonders even if the win the Big East
Tournament if they'd get into the NCAAs.
They have played plenty tough down the stretch including a 1 point
loss to Notre Dame and taking UConn to 2OT.
They just don't have the "W"'s. It doesn't help that they are playing the second hardest
Strength of Schedule this year.
Fading late in games suggests a lack of depth this year. Ryan Gomes helped out his draft position
by staying another year and showing improvements in all facets of his
game. Nobody wants to get this
matchup in the Big East Tournament and PC may be in a position to play
spoiler for someone. |
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| Seton Hall will not make the NIT at this point, having lost 10
of their last 15 games. They are
currently at three games under .500 overall and would need to win their next
game and the Big East Tournament (putting them in the NCAA Tourney) to get to
.500. |
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| Rutgers is guaranteed to finish with a below .500 overall
record, even if they win every game they have left including the Big East
Tourney. No post season for Rutgers
unless they win the Big East Tournament. |
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| St. John's is guaranteed to finish with a below .500 overall
record, even if they win every game they have left including the Big East
Tourney. Even if St. John's could
participate in the post season, there would be no post season for St. John's
unless they won the Big East Tournament. |
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| © 2005 Mark J. Pasquale |
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| March 3, 2005 (as revised) |
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| Current Tie Breaker
Explanation: |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
used. |
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| Boston College beat Uconn. |
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| Seeding goes (1) BC, (2) Uconn. |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
used. |
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| Pitt beat Notre Dame. (rematch to come) |
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| Seeding goes (5) Pitt, (6) Notre Dame. |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
used. |
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| Georgetown
beat WV. |
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| Seeding goes (7) Georgetown, (8) West
Virginia. |
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| In a two way tie, head-to-head record is
used. |
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| PC beat Seton Hall. |
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| Seeding goes (9) PC, (10) Seton Hall. |
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| Boston
College cannot get a seed worse than (2) and has thereby clinched a first
round bye. |
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| UConn cannot get a seed worse than (3) and has therefore
clinched a first round bye. |
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| Syracuse has been eliminated from the (1) seed, but cannot get a
seed worse than (3) and has therefore clinched a first round bye. |
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| Villanova has clinched the #4 seed and the final first round
bye. |
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| Pitt has
been eliminated from the (1) to (4) seeds, but cannot get a seed worse than
(8). |
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| Notre Dame has been eliminated from the (1) to (4) seeds, but
cannot get a seed worse than (8). |
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| Georgetown
has been eliminated from the (1) to (5) seeds, but cannot get a seed worse
than (8). |
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| West Virginia has been eliminated from the (1) to (5) seeds, but
cannot get a seed worse than (8). |
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| PC has been eliminated from the (1) to (8) and (10) seeds. |
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| Seton Hall has been eliminated from the (1) to (8) seeds. |
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| Rutgers has been eliminated from the (1) to (9) seeds. |
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| St. John's is ineligible for post season play. |
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| Big East Seeding Scenarios
for remaining games: |
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Big East team has only one game remaining, but there are a surprising number
of seeding combinations still possible.
The purpose of this section is to explain what Big East seeding will
look like based on the potential results for these remaining games. The top four seeds get a First Round
bye. Due to the absense of Miami and
Virginia Tech this year, all teams make the Big East Tournament. The remaining seeding scenarios are
presented here. |
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| If BC
loses to Rutgers and UConn beats Syracuse, Seeding goes 1) UConn, 2) BC, 3)
Syracuse. |
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| If BC
beats Rutgers and UConn beats Syracuse, Seeding goes 1) BC, 2) UConn, 3)
Syracuse. |
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| Regardless
if BC beats or loses to Rutgers, if UConn loses to Syracuse, then the order
of finish for the remaining teams becomes important. If Notre Dame gets the #5 seed, Seeding
goes 1) BC, 2) Syracuse, 3) Uconn; otherwise seeding goes 1) BC, 2) UConn, 3)
Syracuse. It was previously inferred
here that UConn had an edge in the tiebreakers with Syracuse, but the
continued collapse of Georgetown has allowed Notre Dame to rise in the
standings and potentially impact this scenario. See the Notre Dame section to identify the scenarios where
Notre Dame can get a #5 seed. |
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| The fates of Pitt, Notre Dame, Georgetown, and West Virginia are
interlocked. While Villanova has
clinched the #4 seed in all scenarios, it must be included in this next
analysis due to impact on the tiebreakers used for other teams. Georgetown and WV cannot be a #5 seed, but
otherwise all four teams can hold any seed from #5 to #8. Here are the 16 options: |
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| 1) If Villanova loses to St. John's, Pitt
beats ND, Georgetown beats PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding
goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6)
Georgetown, (7) Notre Dame, (8) WV. |
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| 2) If Villanova loses to St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown beats PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame, (6)
Georgetown, (7) WV, (8) Pitt. |
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| 3) If Villanova loses to St. John's, Pitt
beats ND, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding
goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6)
Notre Dame, (7) WV, (8) Georgetown. |
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| 4) If Villanova loses to St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame, (6) WV, (7)
Pitt, (8) Georgetown. |
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| 5) If Villanova loses to St. John's, Pitt
beats ND, Georgetown beats PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding
goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6)
Georgetown, (7) Notre Dame, (8) WV. |
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| 6) If Villanova loses to St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown beats PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame, (6)
Georgetown, (7) Pitt, (8) WV. |
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| 7) If Villanova loses to St. John's, Pitt
beats ND, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding
goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6)
Notre Dame, (7) Georgetown, (8) WV. |
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| 8) If Villanova loses to St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding
goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame,
(6) Pitt, (7) Georgetown, (8) WV. |
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| 9) If Villanova beats St. John's, Pitt beats
ND, Georgetown beats PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6) Georgetown,
(7) Notre Dame, (8) WV. |
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| 10) If Villanova beats St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown beats PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame, (6)
Georgetown, (7) WV, (8) Pitt. |
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| 11) If Villanova beats St. John's, Pitt beats
ND, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6) Notre Dame,
(7) WV, (8) Georgetown. |
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| 12) If Villanova beats St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV beats Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame, (6) WV, (7)
Pitt, (8) Georgetown. |
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| 13) If Villanova beats St. John's, Pitt beats
ND, Georgetown beats PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6) Georgetown,
(7) Notre Dame, (8) WV. |
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| 14) If Villanova beats St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown beats PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame, (6)
Georgetown, (7) Pitt, (8) WV. |
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| 15) If Villanova beats St. John's, Pitt beats
ND, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding
goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Pitt, (6)
Notre Dame, (7) Georgetown, (8) WV. |
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| 16) If Villanova beats St. John's, ND beats
Pitt, Georgetown loses to PC, and WV loses to Seton Hall then Seeding
goes: (4) Villanova, (5) Notre Dame,
(6) Pitt, (7) Georgetown, (8) WV. |
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| The fates of PC, Seton Hall, St. John's, and Rutgers are
interlocked. While Rutgers can only
get an #11 or #12 seed, the other three teams all have scenarios that land
them anywhere from a #9 to #12 seed.
Here are the 16 options: |
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| 1) If Seton Hall beats WV, PC beats
Georgetown, and Rutgers beats BC then Seeding goes: (9) PC, (10) Seton Hall, (11) Rutgers. |
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| 2) If Seton Hall beats WV, PC beats
Georgetown, and Rutgers loses to BC then Seeding goes: (9) PC, (10) Seton Hall, (11) Rutgers. |
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| 3) If Seton Hall loses to WV, PC beats
Georgetown, and Rutgers beats BC then Seeding goes: (9) PC, (10) Rutgers, (11) Seton Hall. |
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| 4) If Seton Hall loses to WV, PC beats
Georgetown, and Rutgers loses to BC then Seeding goes: (9) PC, (10) Seton Hall, (11) Rutgers. |
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| 5) If Seton Hall loses to WV, PC loses to
Georgetown, and Rutgers beats BC then Seeding goes: (9) PC, (10) Rutgers, (11) Seton Hall. |
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| 6) If Seton Hall loses to WV, PC loses to
Georgetown, and Rutgers loses to BC then Seeding goes: (9) PC, (10) Seton Hall, (11) Rutgers. |
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| 7) If Seton Hall beats WV, PC loses to
Georgetown, and Rutgers beats BC then Seeding goes: (9) Seton Hall, (10) Rutgers, (11) PC. |
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| 8) If Seton Hall beats WV, PC loses to
Georgetown, and Rutgers loses to BC then Seeding goes: (9) PC, (10) Seton Hall, (11) Rutgers. |
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| And
that, my friends is a mouthful! |
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| NCAA Prospects, NIT
Consolations, and Exits: |
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| BC is
in. Between Nation Rankings and total
victories, only seeding is at stake from here on in. A very weak non-conference schedule may
hurt BC's serious consideration as a #1 seed as does recent losses to
Villanova and Pitt, but they are on target for a #2 or #3. We can only hope that if BC makes the
conference finals that all Big East coaches chip in intel to prevent the
turncoat BC Eagles from winning the automatic seed. Game left: @ Rutgers. |
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| UConn is in. Between
National Rankings and total victories, only seeding is at stake from here on
in. UConn's last wins against Notre
Dame and Pitt improved the record against the top 6 Big East teams to
4-3. UConn continues to make a
statement to the committee with regards to NCAA seeding. Game left: Syracuse. |
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| Syracuse is in. Between
Nation Rankings and total victories, only seeding is at stake from here on
in. Syracuse played a weak
non-conference schedule and lost their only serious non-conference game
against Oklahoma State. Syracuse is
1-3 against the top four teams in the Big East with only one game left
against these contenders. Unless they
win the Big East Tournament, are they are looking at a #3 seed at best? Game left: UConn. |
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| Villanova
is in. A recent win against BC was a
large step forward. They have a
guaranteed .500 conference record even with a first round loss, as well as 20
wins. Villanova is 3-5 against the
top 6. Game left: @St. John's. |
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| Pitt is in. They have
hit the magic #19 wins, and have a guaranteed a .500 conference record even
with a first round loss. Pitt is 5-1
against the top six teams in the Big East and has helped their seeding in the
stretch run. Monday's win against BC
was huge. Game left: @Notre Dame. |
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| Notre
Dame has an opportunity to crack into the NCAA tournament. They have a guaranteed .500 conference
record even with a first round loss, but need at least one more win. They may be safe if they can make 18 wins,
because they are one of three teams to beat BC this year. Game left: Pitt. |
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| West Virginia is likely in the NCAA Tournament, but will help
themselves with one more win. Due to
Georgetown's collapse, West Virginia has passed them on the bubble list. The Committee likes team that finish
strong and West Virginia has won 6 of their last 7. Their last game is clearly winable, will give them 19 wins and
a guaranteed .500 finish in conference, but they also have RPI issues. Game left: @Seton Hall. |
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| Georgetown
had an opportunity to crack into the NCAA tournament, but they are slowly
closing the door with their current 4 game slide. One more win gets the Hoyas to a guaranteed .500 conference
record even with a first round loss.
Georgetown will need to win at least one game in the Big East
Tourney. It is highly unlikely that
the committee picks 8 teams from the Big East conference. If only seven get to go from the Big East,
Georgetown will have to outlast Notre Dame, West Virginia, and Villanova by
going deep in the Big East Tournament.
Georgetown is 3-6 against the top 6.
Game left: PC. |
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| Providence can still climb out of the cellar and into the
NIT. It will take winning their last
regular season game and winning their first three games in the Big East
Tournament - not a likely scenario.
One wonders even if the win the Big East Tournament if they'd get into
the NCAAs. They have played plenty
tough down the stretch including a 1 point loss to Notre Dame and taking
UConn to 2OT. They just don't have
the "W"'s. It doesn't help
that they are playing the second hardest Strength of Schedule this year. Fading late in games suggests a lack of
depth this year. Ryan Gomes helped
out his draft position by staying another year and showing improvements in
all facets of his game. Nobody wants
to get this matchup in the Big East Tournament and PC may be in a position to
play spoiler for someone. Tough road
schedule remains. Game left: @ Georgetown. |
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| Seton Hall will not make the NIT at this point, having lost 10
of their last 14 games. They are
currently at four games under .500 overall and would need to win their next
game and the Big East Tournament (putting them in the NCAA Tourney) to get to
.500. Game left: WV. |
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| Rutgers is guaranteed to finish with a below .500 overall
record, even if they win every game they have left including the Big East
Tourney. No post season for Rutgers
unless they win the Big East Tournament.
Game left: BC. |
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| St. John's is guaranteed to finish with a below .500 overall
record, even if they win every game they have left including the Big East
Tourney. Even if St. John's could
participate in the post season, there would be no post season for St. John's
unless they won the Big East Tournament.
Game left: Villanova. |
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